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No law - nothing of what you described is illegal. Happens everyday. In fact, Trump won a case to have Stormy pay the money back because she broke the contract. By the way, she still hasn’t paid it yet.Let's break it down. One question:
When Stormy was paid, and assuming it was paid at Trump's direction to Cohen, from a company Trump owned, and was deducted on the business records and tax return as a legal expense, and Cohen was directed by Trump to pay Stormy to keep her mouth shut.
What was the law, at the time, in that exact scenario?
You start a civil war when one party tries to take control by prosecuting opposing views. We are a constitutional republic, not a banana republic. If you are not willing to fight and stand up for what your grandfather likely fought for, I don’t know what to say.You don't start a second civil war over a guy banging a porn actress, paying her to shut up, and screwing up the accounting for it. I think Bragg is disgusting for bringing this prosecution while not giving a crap about violent crime that actually hurts people. However, let's not pretend that Trump didn't do something massively stupid and gross. It's not worthy to be tacitly condoned through any kind of righteous violence. And keep in mind that we chose this dilemma with our own bad judgment. We couldn't have stopped it, but we could have kept it from being our problem.
You start a civil war when one party tries to take control by prosecuting opposing views. We are a constitutional republic, not a banana republic. If you are not willing to fight and stand up for what your grandfather likely fought for, I don’t know what to say.
No law - nothing of what you described is illegal. Happens everyday. In fact, Trump won a case to have Stormy pay the money back because she broke the contract. By the way, she still hasn’t paid it yet.
First question - 100% incorrect. It was an issue about campaign finance laws, not the underlying activity.But did I describe the basis of the lawsuit? And if it happens every day, are you convinced an appeals court will reverse the verdict of a jury on this? If it was not against the law, are we saying the judge incorrectly described the law to the jury?
From a Forbes article:But did I describe the basis of the lawsuit? And if it happens every day, are you convinced an appeals court will reverse the verdict of a jury on this? If it was not against the law, are we saying the judge incorrectly described the law to the jury?
falsification of business records
That’s what prosecutors are alleging here—all 34 counts against Trump are classified as felonies—with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg arguing that the allegedly falsely labeled payments were done to cover up other crimes, including Cohen’s campaign finance crimes and alleged tax issues, as the payments to Cohen were falsely characterized as income rather than repayments.
Every single thing a campaign does is intended to impact the election. That's the nature of campaigns. If this is a felony, then what kind of crimes can the Bidens be charged with for suppressing the laptop story (among many other things)?AND it was to impact the election
Every single thing a campaign does is intended to impact the election. That's the nature of campaigns. If this is a felony, then what kind of crimes can the Bidens be charged with for suppressing the laptop story (among many other things)?
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Do You think the laws Fed and state have been applied equally?
Trump is private org. How can you falsify a business record if you only fool yourself???Do you believe he did not falsify his business records?
What am I missing?
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Your point about it only being brought in NY court says it all imo
Trump is private org. How can you falsify a business record if you only fool yourself???
I pointed out before in a posted tweet that the feds never let the state take lead on a federal matter. The fact that the DOJ allowed NY to do so tells you it is 100% political.Not ignoring you. I don't know the answer to that. I was researching the difference between a state felony and a federal felony. I'm not sure if that's on point with your question. I'm still researching. Someone brought up the fact (?) that the DOJ did not pursue Trump for the apparent felony but the state of New York did. Does that matter? Does that mean anything? If it was a state felony, then it would not necessarily be in the jurisdiction of the DOJ.
Nope. The prosecution said it impacted taxes but as was pointed out Trump actually had to pay more taxes because of the way he expensed it.Tax return? Using those records to secure loans? I don't know. I get what you are saying but there must have been some sort of provable detrimental reliance issue involved.
NY passed a law to avoid the statute of limitations to specifically to go after Trump.Thanks man. I'm convinced this was a targeted prosecution. No doubt.
It goes back to this: did the state of New York change their laws retroactively to pursue Trump or was this case (the law about underlying crimes being used to revive and create a felony out of a misdemeanor that was moot due to the statute of limitations) on the books all along?
NY passed a law to avoid the statute of limitations to specifically to go after Trump.
No difference in the underlying charge but different in who prosecutes it.So they retroactively criminalized it? Just want to be absolutely sure.
Also, on the state versus federal felony issue. Is there a difference? There's seems to be an animal known as a state felony. I'm trying to figure out if that exists in NY, meaning it was not uncommon for them to pursue it.
I think this bill ultimately passed:So they retroactively criminalized it? Just want to be absolutely sure.
Also, on the state versus federal felony issue. Is there a difference? There's seems to be an animal known as a state felony. I'm trying to figure out if that exists in NY, meaning it was not uncommon for them to pursue it.
You start a civil war when one party tries to take control by prosecuting opposing views. We are a constitutional republic, not a banana republic. If you are not willing to fight and stand up for what your grandfather likely fought for, I don’t know what to say.
Oh, I'm happy to fight. I'm just not willing to fight for a guy whose junk has that poor of judgment. Sorry, but his cock isn't my problem.
Two things can be true at once. Democrats are treating him unfairly, and he has hideous judgment that we shouldn't tolerate as a party.
Mr D
Can you not separate something immoral Trump Might have done years ago from what his policies did for our country?
No.Q for somebody in the know: these business records that Trump falsified, were they the business records of a publicly traded company?
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