NIL for WBB

Rori signed a 12-month NIL deal with Orangebloods, the UT Rivals' site.

"...will make regular appearances on the Orangebloods Youtube and growing list of platforma, with both players scheduled to make multiple appearances each week during their respective seasons. As will be the case with almost all of the athletes that sign with Orangebloods, Disu, Harmon and Jefferson agreed to 12-month contracts that include money directly from Orangebloods and revenue-sharing from sponsorships that ensure that each athlete makes more than Orangebloods in each deal."
 
I don't think most people realize how fundamentally NIL will change college sports, for good or otherwise. Just another thing coaches have to manage for the overall good of the team, not a particular individual.

Without commenting on the propriety of the Orangebloods connection, this is just the tip of the future iceberg.
 
I see where Quinn Ewers is getting another marketing contract with Wrangler. Like he needs more money. I'm hoping to hear about more NIL money for our women athletes. There may be some that I'm not aware of other than Rory. I think the marketability of our women athletes is grossly underestimated. I think it could help recruiting as well as ticket sales.
 
From what I can tell, it looks like maybe the entire Longhorn WBB team scored an NIL deal with the Livestrong Foundation - the Austin-based cancer survivor nonprofit established by Lance Armstrong in the late '90s. Seems like they've almost all posted things on their instagram accts about this, and then this post came out on Livestrong's twitter feed (it references the @TexasOneFund, so I assumed it was NIL related):

 
Here's the link to the Texas One Fund.

Contribute | Texas One Fund

If anyone is interested in donating there is a dropdown box where there are two choices for TxWBB, one for the LiveStrong Foundation and another option that goes to charities other than LiveStrong. The minimum donation is $5.00 and all donations are tax deductible.
 
There's a right way and a wrong way to do this. Neither the school nor the coach/staff can be involved. Coach was actively working with the booster (i.e., like Jimbo does, but this one got caught) on getting the Cavinder twins signed up. This Ruiz guy is going to try to single-handedly remake Miami sports all on his own:
Miami women's hoops penalized for NIL infraction

Kind of bizarre that the NCAA picks this as the first NIL infraction it wanted to go after.

'Ruiz questioned why the NCAA opted to issue its first sanctions in a sport where NIL deals as recruiting inducements have not been viewed as a widespread issue. Most complaints about improper inducements have come from football and men's basketball teams. He also questioned why the NCAA would focus on two athletes who have some of the largest legitimate market values of any of their peers because of the size of their social media following. "You're dealing with a sport that essentially is growing and we want to grow." Ruiz said. "To try to tarnish these young girls from their intention, you're almost trying to penalize these young ladies who did nothing wrong. It's in really poor taste, but luckily for them it doesn't have anything to do with me, because if they did I'd be suing them [the NCAA]."'
 
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UT basketball coaches. Please wake up about NIL! If you want to recruit good players and keep good players, you need more marketing money. LSU gets that. You do not. Texas has the resources and they should be sharing. Get the athletic director involved. You may need to hire a marketing person like other teams have done. A lot of these transfers are looking for good teams, but I also think they're looking for more money.
 
GoHorns22 said:
UT basketball coaches. Please wake up about NIL! If you want to recruit good players and keep good players, you need more marketing money. LSU gets that. You do not. Texas has the resources and they should be sharing. Get the athletic director involved. You may need to hire a marketing person like other teams have done. A lot of these transfers are looking for good teams, but I also think they're looking for more money.
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You seriously think Vic and his staff are asleep on this? Ok then…

What is it about Vic that makes you think he wouldn’t use any resources (short of illegal) AVAILABLE to him to have a winning program? Because I sure haven’t seen it. I trust your checkbook has already been opened to WBB NIL funds
 
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GoHorns22 said:
UT basketball coaches. Please wake up about NIL! If you want to recruit good players and keep good players, you need more marketing money. LSU gets that. You do not. Texas has the resources and they should be sharing. Get the athletic director involved. You may need to hire a marketing person like other teams have done. A lot of these transfers are looking for good teams, but I also think they're looking for more money.
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The On3 rankings linked above actually do not show what a player makes. They are nothing more than one website's opinion of what a player is "worth" based upon popularity and pure speculation. No one really knows what (if anything) an individual player gets paid for their NIL in any given year. This is all just speculation. In fact, it is highly likely that the players on that list do not receive anywhere near their "NIL value". NIL deals are private unless the player puts the information out for public consumption. And even then, you'd have to see their contracts to really know what they made and what they are entitled to. We don't really know what the Texas collectives pay and if the pay differs for particular athletes in particular sports. Occasionally, a media source will do an open records request and obtain numbers of what was reported to the public university. But it only gives the total paid in the aggregate to the athletes in particular programs and not payouts to individual players. And it is by no means accurate because most deals are not reported. Further, multiple states have introduced legislation to prevent the release of this information under open records requests. The only people who know what players make are the players themselves and those that they tell. And since neither the coaches nor the universities can use NIL for recruiting purposes, all of the "recruiting" done using NIL has to come from players on the team (giving information like "do you know how much the collective pays us?") or private donors/collectives reaching out to agents for the recruits or to the recruits themselves if they don't have an agent. So we don't really know what Texas athletes get paid. And the system has to be set up to keep that quiet. Otherwise, you would be giving away information that is needed to maintain a competitive advantage.
 
Born in ATX said:
The On3 rankings linked above actually do not show what a player makes. They are nothing more than one website's opinion of what a player is "worth" based upon popularity and pure speculation. No one really knows what (if anything) an individual player gets paid for their NIL in any given year. This is all just speculation. In fact, it is highly likely that the players on that list do not receive anywhere near their "NIL value". NIL deals are private unless the player puts the information out for public consumption. And even then, you'd have to see their contracts to really know what they made and what they are entitled to. We don't really know what the Texas collectives pay and if the pay differs for particular athletes in particular sports. Occasionally, a media source will do an open records request and obtain numbers of what was reported to the public university. But it only gives the total paid in the aggregate to the athletes in particular programs and not payouts to individual players. And it is by no means accurate because most deals are not reported. Further, multiple states have introduced legislation to prevent the release of this information under open records requests. The only people who know what players make are the players themselves and those that they tell. And since neither the coaches nor the universities can use NIL for recruiting purposes, all of the "recruiting" done using NIL has to come from players on the team (giving information like "do you know how much the collective pays us?") or private donors/collectives reaching out to agents for the recruits or to the recruits themselves if they don't have an agent. So we don't really know what Texas athletes get paid. And the system has to be set up to keep that quiet. Otherwise, you would be giving away information that is needed to maintain a competitive advantage.
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Thank you for the insight! It's really confusing trying to understand the whole NIL thing.
 
If these are just estimates of value, then it seems we have one player grossly overrated, and many players underrated. They have Jordan Codio valued at $90,000 and Rorrie Harman at $32,000. I'm not saying that Jordan is not a good player, or won't be a good player, but she hasn't played at any games for UT yet. Thus, I'm confused about how market value is determined. Is it just playing ability, and value to their team, or are there other factors such as personality, ect. I assumed Shalee was higher than other players because she brought some sponsors with her from BYU. If these are just values, I probably misjudged how UT is is using NIL in recruiting. When I see the football team apparently spending millions of dollars in recruiting, I wonder how much is trickling down to women's sports.
 
GoHorns22 said:
If these are just estimates of value, then it seems we have one player grossly overrated, and many players underrated. They have Jordan Codio valued at $90,000 and Rorrie Harman at $32,000. I'm not saying that Jordan is not a good player, or won't be a good player, but she hasn't played at any games for UT yet. Thus, I'm confused about how market value is determined. Is it just playing ability, and value to their team, or are there other factors such as personality, ect. I assumed Shalee was higher than other players because she brought some sponsors with her from BYU. If these are just values, I probably misjudged how UT is is using NIL in recruiting. When I see the football team apparently spending millions of dollars in recruiting, I wonder how much is trickling down to women's sports.
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So much of it is pegged to social media following/influence. That's why the Cavinder twins got so much dough. Jordana has 87.4K Instagram followers, Rori has 23.7K.

If you don't have an Instagram account and want to boost Longhorns' NIL for free, create an account, follow all the players. Every once in a while, go in and Like everything they post.
 
GoHorns22 said:
If these are just estimates of value, then it seems we have one player grossly overrated, and many players underrated. They have Jordan Codio valued at $90,000 and Rorrie Harman at $32,000. I'm not saying that Jordan is not a good player, or won't be a good player, but she hasn't played at any games for UT yet. Thus, I'm confused about how market value is determined. Is it just playing ability, and value to their team, or are there other factors such as personality, ect. I assumed Shalee was higher than other players because she brought some sponsors with her from BYU. If these are just values, I probably misjudged how UT is is using NIL in recruiting. When I see the football team apparently spending millions of dollars in recruiting, I wonder how much is trickling down to women's sports.
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NIL valuations have a lot to do with size of social media following, etc. In other words, if this player endorsed your product, how many people would be likely to see that?
 
Gonna be real hard for Vic to deal with mUlkey now. Even if this is all BS, hype and exaggeration, now its on the cover of SI. So perception is gonna be hard to beat. We better get some BMD's lined up for top tier WBB recruits, or the bayou witch is gonna have her way.
 
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