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about the salvage divers at Pearl Harbor and other places. Surreal Im sure esp. going down into the Arizona.
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I read somewhere that those on the docks could hear pounding from the sunken ships. They could not get to those souls in time. Sad and terrifying.
I'll have to check out the book. Thanks.
USS OklahomaI read somewhere that those on the docks could hear pounding from the sunken ships. They could not get to those souls in time. Sad and terrifying.
I'll have to check out the book. Thanks.
If I recall correctly, all battleships but the Arizona were re-floated. It took a while before they had the equipment to refloat USS Oklahoma. Some were put back into service, but by then it was clear aircraft carriers were needed, not battleships. Battleships were mainly used to shell islands and defend landing operations.That was from the capsized battleship USS Oklahoma the day of and next day after Dec. 7.
Arizona sunk quickly and only had a few dozen survivors among a crew of 2000 or less.
Very important. Before you read more about Pearl Harbor, you must read the best and a most fascinating book how we broke the Jap Codes:
Joe Rochefort's War by Elliot Carlson.
If you dont read the book, google it and read the summary.
For anyone else interested, the best books on Pearl Harbor are:
Pearl Harbor Final Jugement - Henry C Clausen and Bruce Lee.
The Rising Sun by John Toland.
At Dawn they Slept by Gordon Prange.
If I recall correctly, all battleships but the Arizona were re-floated. It took a while before they had the equipment to refloat USS Oklahoma. Some were put back into service, but by then it was clear aircraft carriers were needed, not battleships. Battleships were mainly used to shell islands and defend landing operations.
Thanks, I will check out these books. By trade, I'm an IT Networking and Security Geek but History, and my wife, are my loves.
Correct me if I am wrong but Joe Rochefort's team broke the Japanese code before Midway. Out of jealousy (?) he was removed from that command and sent to a logistics unit for the duration of the war.
I am a WW2 history nut....
WM, you may enjoy this book, which came out earlier this year. It has the added bonus of featuring my uncle in one chapter.Maybe read a Holland book my dad had about Europe war years ago.
Probably read more books about Pacific theater. Rape of Nanking was disgusting.
Read Band of Brothers before the series. Couple on the Battle of the Bulge. Several books on Hitler and Third Reich, Albert Speer.
Book about B-17's mostly 8th Air Force in Europe: Flying Fortress by Edward Jablonski. Fascinating book about creation & evolution of the B17 and missions in WW2.
Never read Mein Kampf.... but on my list.
It has the added bonus of featuring my uncle in one chapter.
WM, you may enjoy this book, which came out earlier this year. It has the added bonus of featuring my uncle in one chapter.
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For 8th Air Force, read Black Thursday by Martin Caidin. Focuses on the Schweinfurt Raid in 1943.
That was a terribly bloody mission.
John Wolff - don’t recall the chapter.Looks interesting. Will buy it. What is your Uncle's name? Chapter?
I am a WW2 history nut....
South Dakota -- Her Electrical system was afu. At the critical time in the battle, there were many electrical shorts, and breakers were tripping all over the ship, incapacitating South Dakota. Massive electrical failures, and they couldn't timely fix them. S. Dakota was a sitting duck and could not fight back.I believe that Ian Toll's - Pacific Crucible documented the above. Tensions ran so high among the crews of South Dakota and Washington - One Ship took a lot of damage and the other much less (don't remember which) that they could not take shore leave together.
Three books in the series if you are interested. If I recall, one of the books covers the sad tale of the Sullivan brothers on the Juno.
Perhaps the E-Div Chief on the South Dakota later found himself on a supply ship out of Alaska, or something...South Dakota -- Her Electrical system was afu. At the critical time in the battle, there were many electrical shorts, and breakers were tripping all over the ship, incapacitating South Dakota. Massive electrical failures. S. Dakota was a sitting duck and could not fight back.
Washington -- Played it smart, letting the Battleship Kirishima and other IJN ships reveal themselves (night battle) by firing on the (nearly worthless S. Dakota). Then Washington opened fire and blasted the best IJN surface ship in the theatre out of the water in minutes. A destroyer followed shortly thereafter. The Washington (and it's gunners, drilled by Ching Lee) won that battle (and ultimately that campaign). You could also say that the Washington saved the S. Dakota's bacon that night.
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1. Command of the seas, and winning the big naval battles: The CarriersYou are correct. The war in the Pacific immediately became a Carrier war.
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